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		<title>By: Mike Borjas</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[1986 Chicago PARSIFAL with vickers and Troyanos the act 2 was so stunniingly intense vocally and dramatically I has to stay in my seat for the intermission, no muscles nor blood in my legs would work, my brain was fried.  That was opera, many in audience left my mid act one, sad.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1986 Chicago PARSIFAL with vickers and Troyanos the act 2 was so stunniingly intense vocally and dramatically I has to stay in my seat for the intermission, no muscles nor blood in my legs would work, my brain was fried.  That was opera, many in audience left my mid act one, sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerold</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 02:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for your [non][ir]&#039;rational&#039; correction.  My english is not very good.  It never was very good, so I depend on other people to help me out with it.
I just love your posts, too!  Appreciate your long comment-reply to my reminiscences from the old days!
I recorded the prima Parsifal this summer from Bayreuth but I erased it in a fit of anger.  From what I remember, I heard no legato singing out of Mac except from her somewhat limited but beautiful middle register.  Hence the first half of act 2 went well enough for the most part (except for her lowest notes, which she sprechstimmed outside of legato).
I think what irritated me the most was that she started to aspirate and transpose down sooner than anyone I had ever heard before.  So this was something new to me... to my ears, Mac sounded inadequate &amp; handicapped in this role vocally mostly because:
1. she had trouble earlier on in the act than anyone I remember hearing before; and
2. she had more difficulty more often than anyone else I remember hearing before
It was really a first for me - so you see we all have different expectations and standards.
Last year Mac was not good vocally either, but she sounded to me more successful keeping up with the pitch  &amp; tempi and she gave it the best she had (she may have transposed the high notes at the climax of Act 2 down, but it was not obtrusive); her biggest flaw was her unreliable intonation above her passagio.
This year, it was like something I&#039;d never heard before.   She must be very charismatic onstage to get away with it.  Surely someone else in the audience must have noticed, but again it may just be me.  I&#039;ll have to live with my dissatisfaction alone... it won&#039;t be the first time.
BEST WISHES for A VERY GOOD UPCOMING SEASON!   I don&#039;t always comment unless I have heard a broadcast of the performance.  How can I say anything if I haven&#039;t at least heard it myself or the same artists interpreting it elsewhere?  Also, there are just some operas that don&#039;t click with me; others I choose to ignore for various personal reasons
All the best.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your [non][ir]&#8216;rational&#8217; correction.  My english is not very good.  It never was very good, so I depend on other people to help me out with it.<br />
I just love your posts, too!  Appreciate your long comment-reply to my reminiscences from the old days!<br />
I recorded the prima Parsifal this summer from Bayreuth but I erased it in a fit of anger.  From what I remember, I heard no legato singing out of Mac except from her somewhat limited but beautiful middle register.  Hence the first half of act 2 went well enough for the most part (except for her lowest notes, which she sprechstimmed outside of legato).<br />
I think what irritated me the most was that she started to aspirate and transpose down sooner than anyone I had ever heard before.  So this was something new to me&#8230; to my ears, Mac sounded inadequate &amp; handicapped in this role vocally mostly because:<br />
1. she had trouble earlier on in the act than anyone I remember hearing before; and<br />
2. she had more difficulty more often than anyone else I remember hearing before<br />
It was really a first for me &#8211; so you see we all have different expectations and standards.<br />
Last year Mac was not good vocally either, but she sounded to me more successful keeping up with the pitch  &amp; tempi and she gave it the best she had (she may have transposed the high notes at the climax of Act 2 down, but it was not obtrusive); her biggest flaw was her unreliable intonation above her passagio.<br />
This year, it was like something I&#8217;d never heard before.   She must be very charismatic onstage to get away with it.  Surely someone else in the audience must have noticed, but again it may just be me.  I&#8217;ll have to live with my dissatisfaction alone&#8230; it won&#8217;t be the first time.<br />
BEST WISHES for A VERY GOOD UPCOMING SEASON!   I don&#8217;t always comment unless I have heard a broadcast of the performance.  How can I say anything if I haven&#8217;t at least heard it myself or the same artists interpreting it elsewhere?  Also, there are just some operas that don&#8217;t click with me; others I choose to ignore for various personal reasons<br />
All the best.</p>
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		<title>By: rml</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 23:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, Jerold!

Irrational was a bad choice of word: non rational. &quot;Subjective&quot; only means that something is related to one&#039;s own individual experience. What I mean is that no-one chooses what one likes - one just likes it. 

You know that we won&#039;t fight about that - I just love your comments and especially the last one, even if I still have to disagree with you. Of course, Christa Ludwig and Tatiana Troyanos are in an entirely different league as Susan Maclean. Those are legendary singers. What I mean is that one should not be called &quot;horrible&quot; because she does not sing like them. If top grade is ten, then Ludwig is 15. She&#039;s hors concours. So not singing like them only means that you are not marvelous, but if you call sub-Ludwig level horrible, then the sense of proportion is somehow twisted. The closing of Parsifal act II is more than a matter of getting used to it - it will always be difficult. A very experienced singer will know where the traps are and will avoid them, but she is still going to have to deal with them. Not acknowledging this would be the same of saying &quot;the Queen of the Night is just a matter of high staccato phrasing - if you know how to do it, then it&#039;s just easy&quot;. Again, I don&#039;t know how Maclean sounded in the broadcast - I don&#039;t agree that she barely got a note right. She got far many notes right than... Stephanie Friede as Venus, for instance. She had trouble with the exposed high notes in the end of act II. Other than this, she sang very securely, with tonal and dynamic shading, intelligent verbal expression and a warm, firm voice. This is what I heard - and I cannot say it was bad. It was not Christa Ludwig level, but frankly who is? But again - I am not trying to pick a fight. Just explaining my criteria and why I wrote what I wrote about Susan Maclean&#039;s performance.

Now the part about which we agree: I like your description of Ludwig and Urmana and I would use more or less the same words to make the comparison between them. Although I keep G. Jones as one of my favorite Kundrys, I understand what you write about W. Meier. She is a very intelligent singer and I found her tonal quality strangely appealing (it is not classically &quot;beautiful&quot; but sexy in a very unusual way) - but I wouldn&#039;t call her &quot;force of nature&quot; either.  As for Troyanos, again I understand exactly what you say. According to one interview, she never found herself a dramatic mezzo soprano, but she could nonetheless make a terrific job in some of these roles. But the most curious thing is your mention to Crespin - I just love this recording. It is most interesting than she herself was surprised on auditioning for Elsa to learn that Wieland Wagner chose her for Kundry, a role she had never sung before. In her biography, she more or less says that she let herself be &quot;transformed&quot; into a Kundry and that it was a revelatory experience even for her. That is probably why it is so convincing - there is no affectation there, she just &quot;surrendered&quot; to the role, which, moreover, fits her ambiguous Fach.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Jerold!</p>
<p>Irrational was a bad choice of word: non rational. &#8220;Subjective&#8221; only means that something is related to one&#8217;s own individual experience. What I mean is that no-one chooses what one likes &#8211; one just likes it. </p>
<p>You know that we won&#8217;t fight about that &#8211; I just love your comments and especially the last one, even if I still have to disagree with you. Of course, Christa Ludwig and Tatiana Troyanos are in an entirely different league as Susan Maclean. Those are legendary singers. What I mean is that one should not be called &#8220;horrible&#8221; because she does not sing like them. If top grade is ten, then Ludwig is 15. She&#8217;s hors concours. So not singing like them only means that you are not marvelous, but if you call sub-Ludwig level horrible, then the sense of proportion is somehow twisted. The closing of Parsifal act II is more than a matter of getting used to it &#8211; it will always be difficult. A very experienced singer will know where the traps are and will avoid them, but she is still going to have to deal with them. Not acknowledging this would be the same of saying &#8220;the Queen of the Night is just a matter of high staccato phrasing &#8211; if you know how to do it, then it&#8217;s just easy&#8221;. Again, I don&#8217;t know how Maclean sounded in the broadcast &#8211; I don&#8217;t agree that she barely got a note right. She got far many notes right than&#8230; Stephanie Friede as Venus, for instance. She had trouble with the exposed high notes in the end of act II. Other than this, she sang very securely, with tonal and dynamic shading, intelligent verbal expression and a warm, firm voice. This is what I heard &#8211; and I cannot say it was bad. It was not Christa Ludwig level, but frankly who is? But again &#8211; I am not trying to pick a fight. Just explaining my criteria and why I wrote what I wrote about Susan Maclean&#8217;s performance.</p>
<p>Now the part about which we agree: I like your description of Ludwig and Urmana and I would use more or less the same words to make the comparison between them. Although I keep G. Jones as one of my favorite Kundrys, I understand what you write about W. Meier. She is a very intelligent singer and I found her tonal quality strangely appealing (it is not classically &#8220;beautiful&#8221; but sexy in a very unusual way) &#8211; but I wouldn&#8217;t call her &#8220;force of nature&#8221; either.  As for Troyanos, again I understand exactly what you say. According to one interview, she never found herself a dramatic mezzo soprano, but she could nonetheless make a terrific job in some of these roles. But the most curious thing is your mention to Crespin &#8211; I just love this recording. It is most interesting than she herself was surprised on auditioning for Elsa to learn that Wieland Wagner chose her for Kundry, a role she had never sung before. In her biography, she more or less says that she let herself be &#8220;transformed&#8221; into a Kundry and that it was a revelatory experience even for her. That is probably why it is so convincing &#8211; there is no affectation there, she just &#8220;surrendered&#8221; to the role, which, moreover, fits her ambiguous Fach.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerold</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 16:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Irrational or subjective?   We all have different expereiences with this work.
No one loves a beautiful middle register (which Mac does have) more than I.  But  after 47 years of seeing/listening to so much abysmal Kundry singing, even from singers I once admired who had suffered vocal disintegration (should this be a &#039;pink slip&#039; role?), I have to put my foot down and keep it down...inadequacy to the point where at least 1/4 of the notes are not fully achieved becomes an abominable situation.
Most all the Kundries (except, as Loki notes, Troyanos in the broadcast I heard) strained at least a bit at the climax near the end of Act 2.  With some, of course, it was more noticeable than others.
Ludwig&#039;s straining was fascinating.  It was the same when she sang Amneris.  You could hear when she was nearing 
the end of her natural extension; then there was a thrust of gloriously bright, full, on-pitch singing.  That extra strain in Ludwig&#039;s voice and her mercurial skill at modulating her tone, drew one&#039;s attention even more &amp; more as she frantically approached that end of her natural extension, giving a heightened sense of tension and excitement.
As far as which is the best historical recording of Kundry, I don&#039;t know for sure, but I have my personal favorite.  I didn&#039;t care for G. Jones Bayreuth Kundry recording on DG with Boulez conducting; Boulez&#039; first recording from Bayreuth from the early 1960&#039;s had Varnay embarassingly (or humorously, depending on one&#039;s appreciation of sarcasm) past her prime. I saw Waltraud Meier sing Kundry at the Met, but I felt (just as I did when I saw her previoiusly in Deutschland) that she was not an interesting personality for me.  Also, I found her tone to be rather bland to my ears.  But she was an excellent singer, cleverly modulating her fortissimo with an unacanny ability to split-second peak off a high note ever so slightly sharp, making it sound more piercing and voluminous than it really was; but IMO for my ears, W. Meier lacked sincerity, warmth, and truly &#039;congenial&#039; tonal texture.  I don&#039;t mean to sound hackneyed (but I do)... I found hers to be a manufactured voice.
Troyanos probably sang Kundry better than anyone I ever heard, but her voice lacked breadth and weight; she was among the greatest because of her unmatched skillful singing, unbroken legato line, dramatic commitment and the beauty of her tone, but that tone didn&#039;t have the imposing presence of my favorite Kundries had.
Urmana, like Ludwig, had a similar way of thrusting her voice out beyond her natural limit, but there was no build-up of tension or excitement, Urmana just jumped from one side of the chasm to the other without generating much anticipatory excitement.  She is particularly lacking in the italian operas, so I should be grateful at least she did sing Sieglinde, Kundry and Isolde, whether I liked them or not.
-- I guess my favorite historical recording is the Bayreuth 1960 with Crespin as Kundry in her prime.  I was surprised when I discovered it&#039;s excellent acoustical quality.  I paid a very reasonable price to take a chance on it, from Berkshire Music Outlet.
-- What I am getting from singers like Mac is an etched out fragment of a performance, not the real thing.  That Kundry is a soprano role is undoubtedly true; but I have heard great altos like Anna Larsson sing the entire score as skillfully as it was written.  The real problem, even for those who actually do have the physical skill and technique is: most of Act 2 requires only extended interval leaps; Kundry goes up but she comes right back down to her middle/lower register... the voice gets used to this.  Then at the final climax of the duet, she has to go up there and pump it up for awhile.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Irrational or subjective?   We all have different expereiences with this work.<br />
No one loves a beautiful middle register (which Mac does have) more than I.  But  after 47 years of seeing/listening to so much abysmal Kundry singing, even from singers I once admired who had suffered vocal disintegration (should this be a &#8216;pink slip&#8217; role?), I have to put my foot down and keep it down&#8230;inadequacy to the point where at least 1/4 of the notes are not fully achieved becomes an abominable situation.<br />
Most all the Kundries (except, as Loki notes, Troyanos in the broadcast I heard) strained at least a bit at the climax near the end of Act 2.  With some, of course, it was more noticeable than others.<br />
Ludwig&#8217;s straining was fascinating.  It was the same when she sang Amneris.  You could hear when she was nearing<br />
the end of her natural extension; then there was a thrust of gloriously bright, full, on-pitch singing.  That extra strain in Ludwig&#8217;s voice and her mercurial skill at modulating her tone, drew one&#8217;s attention even more &amp; more as she frantically approached that end of her natural extension, giving a heightened sense of tension and excitement.<br />
As far as which is the best historical recording of Kundry, I don&#8217;t know for sure, but I have my personal favorite.  I didn&#8217;t care for G. Jones Bayreuth Kundry recording on DG with Boulez conducting; Boulez&#8217; first recording from Bayreuth from the early 1960&#8242;s had Varnay embarassingly (or humorously, depending on one&#8217;s appreciation of sarcasm) past her prime. I saw Waltraud Meier sing Kundry at the Met, but I felt (just as I did when I saw her previoiusly in Deutschland) that she was not an interesting personality for me.  Also, I found her tone to be rather bland to my ears.  But she was an excellent singer, cleverly modulating her fortissimo with an unacanny ability to split-second peak off a high note ever so slightly sharp, making it sound more piercing and voluminous than it really was; but IMO for my ears, W. Meier lacked sincerity, warmth, and truly &#8216;congenial&#8217; tonal texture.  I don&#8217;t mean to sound hackneyed (but I do)&#8230; I found hers to be a manufactured voice.<br />
Troyanos probably sang Kundry better than anyone I ever heard, but her voice lacked breadth and weight; she was among the greatest because of her unmatched skillful singing, unbroken legato line, dramatic commitment and the beauty of her tone, but that tone didn&#8217;t have the imposing presence of my favorite Kundries had.<br />
Urmana, like Ludwig, had a similar way of thrusting her voice out beyond her natural limit, but there was no build-up of tension or excitement, Urmana just jumped from one side of the chasm to the other without generating much anticipatory excitement.  She is particularly lacking in the italian operas, so I should be grateful at least she did sing Sieglinde, Kundry and Isolde, whether I liked them or not.<br />
&#8211; I guess my favorite historical recording is the Bayreuth 1960 with Crespin as Kundry in her prime.  I was surprised when I discovered it&#8217;s excellent acoustical quality.  I paid a very reasonable price to take a chance on it, from Berkshire Music Outlet.<br />
&#8211; What I am getting from singers like Mac is an etched out fragment of a performance, not the real thing.  That Kundry is a soprano role is undoubtedly true; but I have heard great altos like Anna Larsson sing the entire score as skillfully as it was written.  The real problem, even for those who actually do have the physical skill and technique is: most of Act 2 requires only extended interval leaps; Kundry goes up but she comes right back down to her middle/lower register&#8230; the voice gets used to this.  Then at the final climax of the duet, she has to go up there and pump it up for awhile.</p>
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		<title>By: rml</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 12:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Again you make me envy - it must have been great to hear such a sexy-toned Kundry as Troyanos live. As for Herlitzius, she is a dramatic soprano - these high notes are supposed to come &quot;in the package&quot; :-) Ludwig was an exceptional singer whose exuberant high register led her to sing a couple of soprano roles. What I mean is - a regular mezzo soprano will always be tested by that passage. 

As for Germany looking at itself, well, everybody should look at itself. In Wagner&#039;s case, he was thinking about Germany. As much as Verdi was thinking about Italy when he composed Simon Boccanegra or James Joyce about Ireland when he wrote Ulysses... what makes these work universal is not the &quot;object&quot;, but the view of the object. I tend to look with suspicion with things meant to be universal. Nobody is universal - everybody belongs to a place and _this_ is universal. When something floats aloof with no connection with anything specific, then nobody identifies him or herself with it. But again this is only my opinion. 

One last note, I don&#039;t think that Herheim is addressing the theme of Second World War II, this is only one stance in a far bigger picture. But, who knows, maybe someone will stage one Cambodian Parsifal one of those days... Let&#039;s only hope it won&#039;t be Katharina Wagner! :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again you make me envy &#8211; it must have been great to hear such a sexy-toned Kundry as Troyanos live. As for Herlitzius, she is a dramatic soprano &#8211; these high notes are supposed to come &#8220;in the package&#8221; <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Ludwig was an exceptional singer whose exuberant high register led her to sing a couple of soprano roles. What I mean is &#8211; a regular mezzo soprano will always be tested by that passage. </p>
<p>As for Germany looking at itself, well, everybody should look at itself. In Wagner&#8217;s case, he was thinking about Germany. As much as Verdi was thinking about Italy when he composed Simon Boccanegra or James Joyce about Ireland when he wrote Ulysses&#8230; what makes these work universal is not the &#8220;object&#8221;, but the view of the object. I tend to look with suspicion with things meant to be universal. Nobody is universal &#8211; everybody belongs to a place and _this_ is universal. When something floats aloof with no connection with anything specific, then nobody identifies him or herself with it. But again this is only my opinion. </p>
<p>One last note, I don&#8217;t think that Herheim is addressing the theme of Second World War II, this is only one stance in a far bigger picture. But, who knows, maybe someone will stage one Cambodian Parsifal one of those days&#8230; Let&#8217;s only hope it won&#8217;t be Katharina Wagner! <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Loki</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 12:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I heard Troyanos live as Kundry and she hit the notes.  Of course Ludwig is still my paragon in this role but Tati was quite good.  Herlitzius can hit the notes but she is still finding her way into this role.

In terms of making Germany look at itself, Syberberg did this in his film (and Katharina tried to do it and failed in her silly Meistersinger).  But is it really only Germany that only needs to take a look at itself?  Parsifal is to me a universal work and the introspection to me can be applicable to mankind as a whole.  Confining a work to one country or to one festival seems somewhat limiting.  

What happened in Germany was truly appalling but the destruction that took place there has been repeated innumberable times in one degree or another since the past 66 years, since World War II ended.  If an artist seeks to remind us of our moral shortcomings such reminders need to extend far beyond Germany.  Germany was a worst case possible.  But Cambodia, Rwanda, etc., etc. weren&#039;t much better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard Troyanos live as Kundry and she hit the notes.  Of course Ludwig is still my paragon in this role but Tati was quite good.  Herlitzius can hit the notes but she is still finding her way into this role.</p>
<p>In terms of making Germany look at itself, Syberberg did this in his film (and Katharina tried to do it and failed in her silly Meistersinger).  But is it really only Germany that only needs to take a look at itself?  Parsifal is to me a universal work and the introspection to me can be applicable to mankind as a whole.  Confining a work to one country or to one festival seems somewhat limiting.  </p>
<p>What happened in Germany was truly appalling but the destruction that took place there has been repeated innumberable times in one degree or another since the past 66 years, since World War II ended.  If an artist seeks to remind us of our moral shortcomings such reminders need to extend far beyond Germany.  Germany was a worst case possible.  But Cambodia, Rwanda, etc., etc. weren&#8217;t much better.</p>
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		<title>By: rml</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jerold, you do have a point on saying that the musical performance is not recording-level. In what regards the cast, I agree, it is hardly a dream-team, even last year. And you would be doubly shocked when I write &quot;probably but for Maclean&quot;. Yes, she has problems with the high notes in the end of act II... but, other than Christa Ludwig, I have no recording with a mezzo Kundry who can really sing everything as written. Even my beloved Tatiana Troyanos (in the live performance from.... Chicago?... with Jon Vickers). Before one starts blaming Wagner, we must remember it is a dramatic soprano role: Gwyneth Jones, in the Boulez recording, is in her element precisely there where everyone else is shrieking for dear life. [&#039;I&#039;m rambling here, but that is precisely why I found Michelle DeYoung in Berlin with Janowski truly admirable - among many other niceties, she really SANG this scene - and how!]. I don&#039;t know the sound of Susan Maclean&#039;s voice as recorded - live, it is not the most beautiful sound on the face of earth, but it is definitely not ugly: it is warm and full. Hers is a very powerful voice capable of dynamic shading, she is very expressive and the fact that she is a terrific actress doesn&#039;t hurt either. Last evening, she was not in top form and had her messy moments, but I cannot subscribe to &quot;abominable&quot;. As always, in matters of taste, there is always an element of &quot;irrational&quot; - we like it because we like it, and then we make explanations. :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jerold, you do have a point on saying that the musical performance is not recording-level. In what regards the cast, I agree, it is hardly a dream-team, even last year. And you would be doubly shocked when I write &#8220;probably but for Maclean&#8221;. Yes, she has problems with the high notes in the end of act II&#8230; but, other than Christa Ludwig, I have no recording with a mezzo Kundry who can really sing everything as written. Even my beloved Tatiana Troyanos (in the live performance from&#8230;. Chicago?&#8230; with Jon Vickers). Before one starts blaming Wagner, we must remember it is a dramatic soprano role: Gwyneth Jones, in the Boulez recording, is in her element precisely there where everyone else is shrieking for dear life. ['I'm rambling here, but that is precisely why I found Michelle DeYoung in Berlin with Janowski truly admirable - among many other niceties, she really SANG this scene - and how!]. I don&#8217;t know the sound of Susan Maclean&#8217;s voice as recorded &#8211; live, it is not the most beautiful sound on the face of earth, but it is definitely not ugly: it is warm and full. Hers is a very powerful voice capable of dynamic shading, she is very expressive and the fact that she is a terrific actress doesn&#8217;t hurt either. Last evening, she was not in top form and had her messy moments, but I cannot subscribe to &#8220;abominable&#8221;. As always, in matters of taste, there is always an element of &#8220;irrational&#8221; &#8211; we like it because we like it, and then we make explanations. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 02:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmmmm.... this brings to my mind &#039;underlying layers&#039; of  seasonal births of creativity with eventual  built-in decline and corruption effecting art, power structures, as well as in our own individual existence.   Apparently this sycophantic process has transformed this production of Parsifal into it&#039;s own social reality, reflecting the ineptitude and short-sighted &#039;institutionalization&#039; of the Festival itself.  
-- That it was not filmed for video release, whether it was a politically motivated decision from HRM Katharina the Great or not, I feel is a wise move audially.  Who would want to subject themselves to listening to one of the worst played performances of Parsifal ever given, but on the other hand, to lose the visual glory of this production, as you say, is a tragedy.
-- The 2010 audio broadcast of this Parsifal was tolerable because they had a good Parsifal... but as you say, in 2011 &#039;the whole cast is in poorer shape in comparison to 2010&#039;.
THE GREAT ABOMINABLE KUNDRY
-- Sorry, but solely from the audio end over here, I found Mac&#039;s Kundry barely adequate last year and totally abominable this year.  Mac ranks right down there with the worst I have ever heard: my first Kundry (to this day I still find it incredulous my first Kundry was &#039;in her absolute prime&#039;... another example of the scarcity of adequate singers in the immediate postwar era) THE Mistress of  colourless, monochromatic foghorn declamation, otherwise known as Irene Dalis (San Francisco 1964); followed later on, after the decline of the second Golden Age of 20th Century opera, by two other memorable but vocally haggard Kundries:  Ingrid Tobiasson (Kungliga Teatern Stockholm 1997)  and Catherine Malfitano (San Francisco 2000).   But I have to give them credit for at least trying to reach the notes... unlike Mac, who noticeably aspirated or omitted anything beyond her very limited upper reach and had dropout at the other end of her range, winding up speaking instead of singing most of the notes in her lower register.
-- But Mac got a great deal of applause and admiration this year, from the response I heard on the broadcast.  Lesson well learned: never let any musical or vocal values cloud your judgment when witnessing such a &#039;stunning&#039; production.  Apparently Mac made a great impression with her Marlene Dietrich impersonation.  Perhaps Herheim &amp; Mac should take this act on the road with those Bayreuth girls, Kate and Eva, doing backup?   The new Yankee stadium in the Bronx has some open dates this Fall.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmm&#8230;. this brings to my mind &#8216;underlying layers&#8217; of  seasonal births of creativity with eventual  built-in decline and corruption effecting art, power structures, as well as in our own individual existence.   Apparently this sycophantic process has transformed this production of Parsifal into it&#8217;s own social reality, reflecting the ineptitude and short-sighted &#8216;institutionalization&#8217; of the Festival itself.<br />
&#8211; That it was not filmed for video release, whether it was a politically motivated decision from HRM Katharina the Great or not, I feel is a wise move audially.  Who would want to subject themselves to listening to one of the worst played performances of Parsifal ever given, but on the other hand, to lose the visual glory of this production, as you say, is a tragedy.<br />
&#8211; The 2010 audio broadcast of this Parsifal was tolerable because they had a good Parsifal&#8230; but as you say, in 2011 &#8216;the whole cast is in poorer shape in comparison to 2010&#8242;.<br />
THE GREAT ABOMINABLE KUNDRY<br />
&#8211; Sorry, but solely from the audio end over here, I found Mac&#8217;s Kundry barely adequate last year and totally abominable this year.  Mac ranks right down there with the worst I have ever heard: my first Kundry (to this day I still find it incredulous my first Kundry was &#8216;in her absolute prime&#8217;&#8230; another example of the scarcity of adequate singers in the immediate postwar era) THE Mistress of  colourless, monochromatic foghorn declamation, otherwise known as Irene Dalis (San Francisco 1964); followed later on, after the decline of the second Golden Age of 20th Century opera, by two other memorable but vocally haggard Kundries:  Ingrid Tobiasson (Kungliga Teatern Stockholm 1997)  and Catherine Malfitano (San Francisco 2000).   But I have to give them credit for at least trying to reach the notes&#8230; unlike Mac, who noticeably aspirated or omitted anything beyond her very limited upper reach and had dropout at the other end of her range, winding up speaking instead of singing most of the notes in her lower register.<br />
&#8211; But Mac got a great deal of applause and admiration this year, from the response I heard on the broadcast.  Lesson well learned: never let any musical or vocal values cloud your judgment when witnessing such a &#8216;stunning&#8217; production.  Apparently Mac made a great impression with her Marlene Dietrich impersonation.  Perhaps Herheim &amp; Mac should take this act on the road with those Bayreuth girls, Kate and Eva, doing backup?   The new Yankee stadium in the Bronx has some open dates this Fall.</p>
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